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		<id>https://wiki.objectivismonline.com/index.php?title=Talk:Certainty&amp;diff=5755</id>
		<title>Talk:Certainty</title>
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		<updated>2004-07-02T02:56:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DavidOdden: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does the fact that water boils at 200 degrees on a mountaintop show that it is an error to say that water boils at 212 at sea level?&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think that one&#039;s certain conclusions become wrong when new things are learned.  I think one differentiates between two contexts that one previously had no reason to differentiate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sort of a beta comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m thinking this isn&#039;t the right way to add something in the talk section &#039;cuz I can&#039;t see the original comment but working from memory... I&#039;d say that is a good example of the contextual nature of certainty. I was developing this point on HPO when the hypertroll problem persuaded me to just leave, so this never got worked out; but I think a lot of confusion follows from ignoring the fact that truth is a mental recognition of fact, and it isn&#039;t a particular sentence that you happen to utter as a way of telling others about that recognition. Anyhow, I think the problem is important enough to deserve a page.&lt;br /&gt;
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There isn&#039;t a clear convention about this in Wiki-land, but I think it&#039;s somewhat important if you make a major change in a page that you say something in the talk part that says roughly what you did and why. So for example, what motivates deleting a significant part of the Certainty entry? This is just a suggestion: the point is, I&#039;m inclined to restore the deleted parts, so I&#039;d like to hear what the reasoning is.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>DavidOdden</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.objectivismonline.com/index.php?title=Talk:Certainty&amp;diff=26</id>
		<title>Talk:Certainty</title>
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		<updated>2004-06-28T21:11:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DavidOdden: Sort of a beta comment&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does the fact that water boils at 200 degrees on a mountaintop show that it is an error to say that water boils at 212 at sea level?&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t think that one&#039;s certain conclusions become wrong when new things are learned.  I think one differentiates between two contexts that one previously had no reason to differentiate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sort of a beta comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m thinking this isn&#039;t the right way to add something in the talk section &#039;cuz I can&#039;t see the original comment but working from memory... I&#039;d say that is a good example of the contextual nature of certainty. I was developing this point on HPO when the hypertroll problem persuaded me to just leave, so this never got worked out; but I think a lot of confusion follows from ignoring the fact that truth is a mental recognition of fact, and it isn&#039;t a particular sentence that you happen to utter as a way of telling others about that recognition. Anyhow, I think the problem is important enough to deserve a page.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>DavidOdden</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.objectivismonline.com/index.php?title=Senses&amp;diff=4921</id>
		<title>Senses</title>
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		<updated>2004-06-28T20:58:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DavidOdden: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Sensation refers to particular experiences that a living being has, due to specialised organs for hearing, seeing, feeling and smelling. Sensation is transient: when the physical stimulus is gone, the sensation is gone and cannot be held in memory (though it can be integrated into [[percept]]s, which can be). The senses refers to that faculty of transducing external physical properties to the brain: what the brain receives is sensations.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>DavidOdden</name></author>
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		<id>https://wiki.objectivismonline.com/index.php?title=Existents&amp;diff=4969</id>
		<title>Existents</title>
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		<updated>2004-06-28T13:04:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;DavidOdden: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;An existent is something that exists: it may be a thing (entity), an attribute or an action (ITOE p. 5).&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>DavidOdden</name></author>
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